This is my thinking, not a scientific advice of course:
I was asked by a friend if I agree we all have a germ overload, and if I think that by killing the parasites the bacteria and other might be fixed by the immune system?
Yes in Lyme Disease there is an overload of bugs, organisms, bacteria, protozoans, viruses and mold.
Why or how? By the transmission of the tick bite, other might be awakened because the immune system is suppressed maybe by some bacteria capable of doing this or precisely because the system is totally overloaded. Also because the ticks transmit not just one type of bugs, at least the American ticks seem to pass more than one organism and they all enter our bodies and create an “ecosystem” inside us.
For example the mold, we might all have some of it in our “regular healthy lives”, but because of the infection, the parasitic die off or the large amounts of antibiotics the mold grows. So probably it was not received from the tick but it is an “opportunistic organism”?? When we kill the parasites if there are no bacteria to eat that dead body, the body will have a fermentation process which really means fungi or mold trying to destroy it. Meaning count on having mold too for sure, and this is a big organism not easy to eradicate!
Another thing very obvious to me is, if we have a little stick inside our skin, let’s say the tip of a finger and we do not take it out what happens? it gets infected, meaning the bacteria would show up and live there unless we treat the infection and get rid of the stick. Now imagine thousands of sticks inside our bodies, and then hundreds of thousands in the blood, brain, muscles? well, those are the parasites and yes the bacteria feeds from the left overs of these parasites. There are some researchers who dare to say that these parasites are so smart they “grow” these bacteria as food for them?
I just think it is obvious to have multiple organisms if an infection is not treated on time, more this type of zoonotic Disease that brings big parasites that go to our blood and then the brain and glands and muscles and bones. So of course the response is to have an overactive immune system, adrenal system, circulatory system; the Central nervous system is infected almost since the beginning, the Lymphatic system is their favorite dessert and with all these the constellation of symptoms is obvious. Pains of all types, infection all over, septicemia, countless signs.
So because of my posts you ask me if I think that by first treating the parasites the other infections could be fixed by the immune system? I would have to say I don’t know for sure, but I can say that it is not logic to treat the bacteria first and after years of being devoured by parasites consider treating them. I can say for sure the logic is to treat the big ones first. Yes treat the parasites and then try to fix the infections and mold and viruses before the body is so broke, is the logic thread. I cannot understand people having intravenous antibiotics for two three years and not having one anti-parasitic. It is like trying to kill a snake with flea spray? yes it has killed thousands of fleas but it might take many years to kill that snake!
But the problem is much bigger; the problem is the concept of what Lyme Disease is or what it is not. I hear people saying, “my Doctor found my bigger problem was not Lyme but the Babesia?”; others “I found pots is my problem and not LD”? So the concept of what is Lyme has to be defined, to be able to properly treated; the same as the bugs in Lyme have to be IDENTIFYIED to be properly treated!
I’ve seen LD as the multi-infection that generates a constellation of symptoms, but I don’t loose the North of seeing the origin of such infection as a zoonotic disease and as such what type of medicines to use. This because most Drs and specialists treat the symptoms but not the cause, so the person receives tons of pain killers, psych medicines and hundreds of supplements but not even one anthelmintic? So Lyme is what and how it must be addressed to fully recover the person?
So we have to go back to the concept again because most Doctors and medical books in the US think there are no parasites in this huge piece of earth; everything is free of worms and longer bugs? the soil, the water, the grass, the animals?? I don’t know why parasites are denied with such fervor, lol, it is like saying the rest of the world could be round but this part is flat!
So if the WISE say there are no parasites at all, just very weird cases, so exceptional they are good to do a scary TV program full of Monsters, how can someone like me say LD has a huge component of parasitic infection? And let me clear, not just me but a Dr and a group of Drs that have influence from other places of the world, meaning this is not “American made”… so is there or is there not a parasitic infection in Lyme Disease. Are parasites transmitted by the tick when it bites the victim or not? Is Babesia a parasite? Is Borrelia a parasite? and do some of the co-infections re or not parasites or act like parasites? And if this concept is not defined due to it might raise susceptibilities as saying the US is now ewww full of parasites, LD is not going to be properly treated. Like the spray for fleas to try to kill a snake, or ten snakes or one hundred snakes or thousands hatched every 21 days inside our bodies… does this is a picture that needs to be taken care or we can still ignore it to not be offended?
How come LD is “malaria like”? i don’t understand what is to be like and not to be it, what this means medically or scientifically talking; I just understand the words that mean it is as bad as malaria and it should be treated with the same priority as this disease, is this correct? How come “Babesia” is a parasite that acts like the parasite of the falciparum malaria but it is not treated as a bad dangerous parasite? Amoxicillin for these? Doxycycline for two weeks? This treatment was not even made in the past century in the endemic areas of the planet why would that be the treatment in the US in this century? I asked the Dr if he would consider the blood transfusion and he laughed at me… why? Don’t I deserve to be properly treated for such infection? My friend C asked her Doctor to test her and consider treating her for parasites, her Doctor said he won’t test her because he won’t change the protocol no matter the results of the labs! TRUE STORY! And many like this one that has name and last name!
So again, are there or are there not parasites in LD and if the answers is yes should they be treated or not??? Is it ok and proper to not treat parasites and not to treat the zoonotic parasitic infection in Lyme Disease?
And if this brings some light at the end then there will be the discussion of what is a parasite and what not? Because many think parasites are just intestinal, they just get the concept of a white long worm, but can you even think what is like to have bugs that go inside the red blood cell and feed out from it, live there, multiply inside there; or inside the brain cells? Something not so serious to treat or something too ewww to talk about? We have parasites coming out of our eyes, we’ve seen them and have pictures. Bugs coming out from our skin, bugs killing our brain cells to the point the “DEPRESSION” is nothing different than brain damage made by the parasites that leave the cell blank so we cannot think, remember things, connect images, get to the extreme point of not even being able to pray, the brain just can’t do it, too hard to do it. Does this sounds strange? it is not for any Lymie!
So are parasites just white long worms or those “malaria like” as Babesia, that invade our red blood cells three bugs at a time, sucking our life out, are, or not parasites, and should they be treated or not?
And of course we do have intestinal parasites, lol, those are the easiest ones to treat, those are the less of our problems; so why not treat them? Why the medical profession in the US does not deworm regularly and moreover why not deworm and detox a person who is infected in so many ways with so many organisms?
So, do I think that by treating the parasites the other bugs might be fixed by our own bodies? Still cannot say the last word, hope there is someone that could, but Dr K said that while treating the bigger bugs the smaller can be detoxed too; and this Dr in Fl said that Borrelia attaches to the parasites so we cannot let one parasite in the body not treated in order to cure Lyme Disease.. if this answers part of the question?
The other problem I see is that if all the bugs were properly identified and addressed the point would be how to treat them, in which order and when? From the biggest to the smallest, and then repeat treatments, ok that sounds logic, but how to know the exact combination? The more you research about Lyme the more weird names show up, so can you explain me how can the tick in North America transmit Rickettsia, Mycoplasma, Bartonella, Babesia, Borrelia, Viruses, etc??? Does each Lymie has them all? Or just some of those? And to put the cherry on top of this dessert, the homeopathic Doctors insist there is a huge load of metals blocking the body that have to be treated too to be able to respond to the rest of the long treatment!
So we are talking about a multi-bacterial, poly-parasitic infection with numerous co-infections that cause a constellation of symptoms and damage to the body and health that is not clear how to detect it, to address it; it is denied, hidden and ignored, that is now the plague of the century, spread from the US to the world and no one knows how to cure it? (I say use anthelmintics to start, Eureka!!!).
I don’t know if the chicken was first than the egg but one thing is certain, a zoonotic infection is parasitic everywhere of the planet; an “intracellular bacteria – like Borrelia – means it is a parasite but smaller – and if Babesia is not treated the person would never recover. So talking parasites is talking Lyme Disease.
The one only truly good thing I find after so much suffering this disease brings is that no matter how many say this is chronic and won’t be cured, when properly addressed by killing the parasites and treating the infections, in most cases, even the very lost ones, the immune system responds and recovers and the person can become healthy after being sick long time. I have seen that with people just receiving some antibiotics and feeling some recovery and others having anthelmintic and starting to live again. Even the anemia goes away by itself! The immune system doesn’t seem to be broken, it is overloaded and affected, but it still works everyday truly hard to help us out; it is not chronic by any means. Treat the infection and the chronic is gone!
So my answers is yes, I do think that if you treat first the parasites and re-treat from time to time, and properly address the infections and co-infections the immune system would do a better job and the healthy life would come back, slowly but would do!
No it is not a fake expectation; it is the reality some business people want to take away from us just to make money by treating forever or by some companies that do not want to do long term treatments, but the sun is there no matter how much they try to hide it with a finger!
With all my heart to all my Lymie friends, may God heal you!
M.J.NOTE: LYME THE ROLLERCOASTER BLOG DOES NOT OFFER, DOESN’T GIVE, NOR INTENDS TO GIVE ANY MEDICAL ADVISE NOR MEDICAL RECOMMENDATIONS. THESE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS, IDEAS, RESEARCH AND EXPERIENCE SHARED.